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Cancelled Flight’s Plane Used For Next Flight - FlyerTalk Forums (1)Jul 11, 2019, 5:29 pm

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AC7615 (DCA to YYZ) cancelled today after 2 boardings due to weather, was then positioned for AC7617’s use.

Unfortunate for me as when waivers opened today I moved from 7617 to 7615.

Bad luck...

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Very bad luck today in YYZ and the north-east market today.
I'm here in yyz right now...​​I have seen 2 yyz-lga flights get cancelled with angry passengers storming away. Now all flights for that corridor are cancelled today.

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Cancelled Flight’s Plane Used For Next Flight - FlyerTalk Forums (5)Jul 11, 2019, 6:16 pm

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BOS-YUL 8467 and BOS-YOW 8045 were cancelled. I'm on BOS-YYZ 532 after an hour delay. Crew warned that it will be a bumpy ride

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It is indeed a mess.AC0630/11JUL EQU ACA321L01
CTY TML ARR DEP GRND AIR CABINS J Y
YYZ - 2010 - 02.02
YHZ 2312 TOTAL TIME YYZYHZ 2.02
YYZ 0100 04:50L YHZ 0402 04:50L 321 EQI ED EA
DEP TML T1 GATE --/D40
ARR TML GATE --/-----
RMKS/FLT DLY WAITING FIRST AVAILABLE INB ACFT DUE FLEET CONSTRA
INTS ON A3XX FLEET 210,220 AND 453 AOG ALSO GDP INTO YYZ AND LG
A DUE WXX

Fortunately I changed over to 622 and have half a chance of being awake tomorrow.

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Cancelled Flight’s Plane Used For Next Flight - FlyerTalk Forums (9)Jul 11, 2019, 7:12 pm

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The entire NE becomes such garbage in this weather.

Sometimes I feel like the busy summer season with storms can be way worse than winter when it comes to IROPs and IROP recovery.

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Cancelled Flight’s Plane Used For Next Flight - FlyerTalk Forums (11)Jul 11, 2019, 7:22 pm

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We should have a dedicated thread for NE delays for YYZ to NYC/BOS/DCA complaints. Then people can learn that this happens all the time and AC does attempt to fix it by up-gaging planes and etc once the airspace & airports are open again.

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Cancelled Flight’s Plane Used For Next Flight - FlyerTalk Forums (13)Jul 11, 2019, 8:35 pm

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Originally Posted by knotseh

We should have a dedicated thread for NE delays for YYZ to NYC/BOS/DCA complaints. Then people can learn that this happens all the time and AC does attempt to fix it by up-gaging planes and etc once the airspace & airports are open again.

ok, someone PM me when they see an upgauged YYZ-LGA flight for tomorrow Cancelled Flight’s Plane Used For Next Flight - FlyerTalk Forums (14) I could go for a 767 pod seat

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Originally Posted by expert7700

ok, someone PM me when they see an up-gaged YYZ-LGA flight for tomorrow Cancelled Flight’s Plane Used For Next Flight - FlyerTalk Forums (17) I could go for a 767 pod seat.

Was looking at booking to LGA or EWR, great options from the US or YYZ. Then 2 minutes later I saw the first of the weather waviers and ATC stops.. Leading to zero availability.

Yeah it's nuts. All it takes is a stop or two in USNE, and the auto rebooking of pax fills up the flights for the rest of the day in a matter of seconds.

Then it's scrambling for a spot here and there as people cancel / refund / rebook for later etc.

Just check EF every hour or so, and there will probably be a WB to LGA popping up at some point. Either that or an extra 320 section. Once it opens, cancel your check in first, then use the self serve rebooking tool (SSRT). If it doesn't, a special number could pop up which gives you somewhat of a priority when calling in.

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Originally Posted by expert7700

ok, someone PM me when they see an upgauged YYZ-LGA flight for tomorrow Cancelled Flight’s Plane Used For Next Flight - FlyerTalk Forums (20) I could go for a 767 pod seat

I haven't seen an upgauged 767 on yyz-lga in a long while, they still doing this?

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Cancelled Flight’s Plane Used For Next Flight - FlyerTalk Forums (22)Jul 11, 2019, 9:33 pm

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Originally Posted by knotseh

I haven't seen an upgauged 767 on yyz-lga in a long while, they still doing this?

They are tomorow Cancelled Flight’s Plane Used For Next Flight - FlyerTalk Forums (23) But AC won't have any options as they retire the old 767s. (the 777/787/A330 cannot fly into LGA due to wingspan limit).

Fun fact: Biggest plane to land at LGA was an Airbus Beluga. Ironically, to bring rescue parts for an Air Canada plane with a damaged horizontal stabilizer.

Originally Posted by SparseFlyer

Just check EF every hour or so, and there will probably be a WB to LGA popping up at some point. Either that or an extra 320 section. Once it opens, cancel your check in first, then use the self serve rebooking tool (SSRT). If it doesn't, a special number could pop up which gives you somewhat of a priority when calling in.

EF does not show anything
Google flights now shows AC1992 rouge 767, bookable in J only
aircanada.com shows AC1992, 767 operated by Air Georgian Cancelled Flight’s Plane Used For Next Flight - FlyerTalk Forums (24)

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Cancelled Flight’s Plane Used For Next Flight - FlyerTalk Forums (27)Jul 12, 2019, 6:57 am

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Really EF didn't pull up anything?

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Cancelled Flight’s Plane Used For Next Flight - FlyerTalk Forums (29)Jul 12, 2019, 7:07 am

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Originally Posted by SparseFlyer

Really EF didn't pull up anything?

Still nothing as of this morning.

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Cancelled Flight’s Plane Used For Next Flight - FlyerTalk Forums (31)Jul 12, 2019, 7:58 am

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Weird. I thought extra sections would show up on EF. They do pull up on GDSs.

Looks like maritimes might be getting ...... weather this weekend too.

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Cancelled Flight’s Plane Used For Next Flight - FlyerTalk Forums (33)Jul 12, 2019, 8:09 am

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There's 2 up-gauge today.so far. 320->321. I still can't pull-up AC1992 on EF, What does it say on GDS?
Looks like they can't catch a break on AC702

Code:

AC0702/12JUL EQU ACA321L01CTY TML ARR DEP GRND AIR CABINS J YYYZ - 0800 - 01.25LGA 0925 TOTAL TIME YYZLGA 1.25RMKS/WAS A320 NOW A321 UPGAUGED REQUIRED FOR CAPACITY DUE LGA WXX IRROP RECOVERY 11JUL LATE INBD DUE ACFT RETURN TO GATE TO DEPLANE PAX WHO WAS FEELING UNWELL AND DLYD DEP TO AVOID CURFEW ISSUES UPON ARR IN YYZ...FURTHER DLYD DUE TOW REQD FROM DOM TO T/B GATE., FURTHER DELAYED AT 0630AM TO 09H40 DUE TO MTC FIN 453YYZ 0940 01:40L LGA 1102 01:37L 321 EQT ED EADEP TML T1 GATE --/F51ARR TML B GATE --/-----AC0706/12JUL EQU ACA321L01CTY TML ARR DEP GRND AIR CABINS J YYYZ - 1000 - 01.24LGA 1124 TOTAL TIME YYZLGA 1.24RMKS/WAS A320 NOW A321 DUE TO CAPACITY DEMAND CAUSED BY LGA WXX11JUL, DLYD AWAITING INBOUND DUE TO IFS CREWING ISSUES ON AC396 OUT OF YYCYYZ 1040 00:40L LGA 1202 00:38L 321 EQI ED EADEP TML T1 GATE --/F34ARR TML B GATE --/----

Early morning LGA-YYZ flights cancelled, probably cause they couldn't get the planes last night since 8x YYZ-LGA flights were also cancelled on Thurs Jul 11th (I was on one of them)
Lots of unhappy folks of course. I was rebooked to Saturday but managed to sneak into EWR last night.

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Cancelled Flight’s Plane Used For Next Flight - FlyerTalk Forums (36)Jul 12, 2019, 8:49 am

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Originally Posted by knotseh

I haven't seen an upgauged 767 on yyz-lga in a long while, they still doing this?

yes, see them from time to time and always makes me smile at LGA. Pretty cool if you ask me.

The other biggest plane I've seen was a UA 757 but that was a while back (probably summer last year).

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